Scu of criticalanimal studies makes a really great observation in response to my post on nested objects and politics:

“Political engagement can be thought as engagement in which objects at a smaller level of scale attempt to engage an object at a higher level of scale with the aim of pushing that object at a larger level of scale into a different basin of attraction. The issue here is one of how individuals that compose a larger scale object can act on that object without simply reinforcing its existing basin of attraction.”

I guess part of the question is one of engagement. Not sure what you mean by that term, but I also think that folks who don’t exactly fit the term engagement are pretty interesting (and here I mean people who propose exit/exodus as a major political tool). As Deleuze and Parnet put it, “Nothing is more active than fleeing!”

“The second problem is that even where a new sub-multiple or object is formed through an alliance, and even where this object is intense enough to push the larger scale multiple of which it is a part into a new basin of attraction, this new basin of attraction is itself highly unpredictable.”

Of course. This fits in with what Stengers has shown as a difference between a demonstration and an experiment (I expect you know the difference, but if not: a demonstration is when you do something that you are fairly sure you know what the outcome will be. An experiment entails doing something that you know carries with it a risk of something completely weird happening. Galileo dropping a hammer and a feather is a demonstration, the first time we set off a nuclear bomb was an experiment). Politics, as opposed to policy, is always an experiment. Also, there is always something about a revolutionary action that exceeds instrumentality (whatever problems I have about Negri and his work aside, his book Insurgencies is really excellent on this point). This is sort of like a quotation from Gramsci that I can’t find right this second, but it goes something like this: Communism is the only movement that is fighting for a society that it cannot envision. (That’s way off from what he said, but you get the point).

I have nothing more to add. This pretty much says it all.

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