Responding to my post about my own academic career, Ben writes:
I was struck but what you wrote as I am beginning the process of applying to phd programs here in the states and find myself constantly frustrated by the options (you mention two of ‘continental friendly’ programs and I would add New Mexico as well) and have been lately considered whether it is worth it to go into philosophy at all in the states.
Part of me wants to just flee across the ocean where the rest of me thinks it is long over due that continental philosophy have proper homes (or a proper home) in the states and that something like black mountain college/egs needs to be made here – a theory camp if not a real school.
Sorry I am mostly rambling – I guess my question is – is it even possible to get into well respected (but always analytic) programs in the US with continental credentials and, if so, like you partially suggest, is it impossible to teach what one likes in the high ivory towers?
I really like Ben’s idea about starting something like the equivalent of EGS here in the United States. This is something that theorists from a variety of disciplines should be talking about and something that should seriously be implemented. I have even been considering going after a second PhD at EGS not only for the opportunity to work with theorists and artists of such stature, but as a motivation to write another book. Although an outsider, I think I have enough background in media theory and technologies to have something of interest to say on these issues.
With respect to the academic job market, I think it’s worth emphasizing that a lot of what I wrote in my post is really my own personal symptoms and insecurities. I think there are a lot more possibilities out there than I suggest, and that in my own case I often create artificial barriers where they don’t exist. Lacan often observed that neurotics tend to manufacture barriers against jouissance as a way of sustaining their desire. Moreover, one of the ways in which neurosis functions is through the frustration of the Other’s desire. This is certainly the case in my own psychic economy. Throughout high school, undergrad, and graduate school, I had to do things in a very indirect fashion. Thus, in high school I skipped so much schooling that the state actually attempted to bring charges against me for truancy. What the state didn’t know was that I spent my days at the local coffee shop reading history, mathematics, literature, and philosophy. Fortunately, given that I had reached a point where I was performing very well in school, the teachers and administration came to my defense and said “leave him alone, this works for him.” Basically I had home schooled myself.
As an undergrad I had to read texts for my philosophy courses– I took 116 hours of philosophy at Ohio State –a quarter in advance because it was constitutively impossible for me to read assigned texts during the actual quarter. The situation was similar in graduate school. In other words, I had to trick myself into doing the work. The reason for this, I think, was that I simply cannot tolerate what I perceive as an order issuing from the Other. If I am told that I am required to do something, I simply shut down and dig in my heels. This tic is so pervasive for me that I even have difficulty filling out forms.
From a psychoanalytic point of view this would be a way of frustrating the desire of the Other, but also a refusal of the Other’s jouissance or a refusal to be enjoyed by the Other. However, while this is an unconscious strategy for frustrating the Other’s desire and refusing to be an object of jouissance, it’s also worthwhile to note that this is a way of stealing jouissance from the Other. To do one’s schoolwork at the local coffee shop or read texts other than the assigned text during the semester is a sort of theft of an illicit enjoyment. It’s a delight in doing what you believe you’re not supposed to be doing. In this regard, I wonder if the way in which I portray academia isn’t a variant of a fantasy structure organized around the theft of jouissance. If I tell myself that academia only recognizes commentary, that there’s no place for the sort of work that I would like to do, then I can gratify myself by stealing something from academia or believing that I am stealing something. In other words, there’s a way in which I need this sort of impediment to get off in the way that I do. I often wonder if the sort of depression I experienced after the publication of Difference and Givenness wasn’t precisely the result of the manner in which its publication and its warm reception challenged my unconscious fantasy structure and economy of jouissance. I experienced a sort of subjective destitution and sense of the surreal or uncanny after the book was finally released. No doubt this is part of the reason for my antipathy towards the book.
Here I think it’s important to note counter-examples. Adrian Johnston, for example, has found a way to do what he wants to do within the current framework of philosophy as practiced in the United States. Who would have thought it would be possible to do serious work on Zizek, Lacan, and German Idealism and land a position in a graduate program? DeLanda is really a total outsider, but has found a way to do what he wants to do. Harman has made himself a place as well. It’s also worth citing the example of Jameson. Who would have thought it would have been possible to do the sort of Marxist literary criticism in the milieu he was working in? Finally, I have been able to publish a good deal on the sorts of things that interest me despite the belief that there is no place for my work. My point is that we have to make a place for ourselves within the institutions that exist. We also get an opportunity in the long run to change those institutions through collaborative activity, the formation of alliances, the production of journals, conferences, etc. Get involved, get to know people, put yourself out there and publicly develop your thought and you have a good chance of getting somewhere. Each generation of thinkers remakes the institutions within which they were trained. It’s your job to do that.
July 8, 2009 at 12:25 am
What the state didn’t know was that I spent my days at the local coffee shop reading history, mathematics, literature, and philosophy. Fortunately, given that I had reached a point where I was performing very well in school, the teachers and administration came to my defense and said “leave him alone, this works for him.” Basically I had home schooled myself.
Dr Sinthome you should not only be proud of but you should CLING to this self-education as you cling to dear life, because that is your most powerful weapon towards achieving Harman-style stardom in the egghead circles. I also educated myself in life, because school by definition doesn’t educate, it ideologizes, and it is only through my subversive pursuits that I ever got any real knowledge in life. You should explore these transgressive sides of yourself more; I often get the impression you’re sort of ashamed of your attraction to alternative things and the Dimension Beyond while I think these are tremendous qualities to have in an egghead dr. Sinthome.
July 8, 2009 at 12:27 am
But above all dr. Sinthome, it doesn’t pay off in the end if you don’t do what you love, and you should just follow your heart’s calling. Sounds like your dilemma is more you’re not sure exactly what you love.
July 8, 2009 at 12:35 am
as for the Continental and post-Continental theory market dr. Sinthome I feel that it’s a lot like the HYPE that surrounded the disappearance of 2D animation from Disney studios, which then last month or so suddenly resurfaced, in polished format, as The Princess and The Frog. Because you can’t really ever not use 2D animation for any serious animation, this animation will never disappear, but just be more or less popular in periods. In the same way I think psychoanalytic thought cannot perish, because even the vilest behavioral control system can’t do without its counterpart on the market. When I was attending a lecture by this Pixar studios dignitary who makes his money teaching animation all over the world, he was talking exclusively of psychoanalysis: the Gaze, the Gap, the Real, and so on. Psychoanalysis still operates, and continues, only it’s changed residence to other forms, other expressions.
July 8, 2009 at 12:38 am
i’m not going to psychoanalyze myself, but i will say something. i have just decided to leave a phil phd program in the us after completing two semesters. my interests are in continental phil, and the program i’m leaving is 97% analytic, with two profs interested in continental. i strongly advise those who are primarily interested in continental to not go to predominantly analytic schools. it’s an uphill battle–poor class offerings, expectations to adopt that horribly boring analytic writing style, a conservative political atmosphere, having to take stale requirements like analytic ethics and metaphysics, and on and on. it’s just not worth entering an environment where you know you’ll be persecuted (unless you’re a straussian, maybe). if you get into a program like mine, you’ll be spending the bulk of your time reading things that interest you without the guidance of a professor–this is something you can do outside of academia, and the phil phd is not worth it, unless you’re interested in the slim chance of career advancement (within a community of scholars where the majority resists most things continental). in short, i would advise you to also apply to comp lit, rhetoric, political theory (if you’re interested in political philosophy), communication studies, and whatever other programs in the us that are more open to continental thought.
July 8, 2009 at 2:36 am
Tune in,
May I ask where the program was? What you are saying fits uncomfortably well with my worries about PhD programs.
July 8, 2009 at 2:50 am
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July 8, 2009 at 9:38 am
There are a few all continental PhD programs in the UK, I’m currently at one of them. If you want to study continental philosophy, and have a strong desire to have your PhD be in ‘Philosophy’, it’s probably the best option, although there is still the issue of jobs. It seems like the best places in the states right now would be the comp lit/rhetoric departments in places like Penn, Cornell, and Berkeley. In my pretty limited experience being around continental grad students in the US, the most interest ones were all out of non-philosophy departments, while many of the ones working on the most current/interesting projects were studying outside philosophy.
best of luck.
July 8, 2009 at 12:34 pm
My BA is in philosophy from DePaul (a strongly Continental department that provided me with a really excellent education in the history of philosophy) and I tried to escape to a theology and religious studies department to do more work in Continental philosophy. It largely backfired. I have heard similar things from friends who tried to do this work in Comp Lit of French departments. I have told this to some of the profs at DePaul I’m still close with and was given similar guidance by them. They said that they weren’t the happiest with their graduate education (except one who went to New School, but he had other problems relating to the lack of available funding there) and that you have to find ways of carving out space for yourself in programs. So, I guess the lesson to take away from that is not to look for a place where there is perfection or even goodness, but simply the place that allows you enough room to think for yourself. Do not expect Paris salons though.
That doesn’t say anything about the job problem though. That sucks and will likely to continue to suck, but Ray Brassier once told me that we academics can’t really whine as most of the world can’t pursue jobs that fulfill them so why should we expect it for us. Lot of wisdom in that nihilist. I will say that even when you get the job it won’t be ideal and so you just, again, have to find a line of flight. None of us should be under the illusion that academic work or even non-academic pursuits in philosophy will make us happy or more balanced. Still, I’m slightly more optimistic than most about our future despite it all.
Hope some of that was helpful and not just egotistical rambling on.
July 8, 2009 at 6:06 pm
I’d love to see something like the collegium phaenomenologicum get started in the U.S. The SCT at Cornell used to make an effort to bring cutting edge theorists/philosophers, but I doubt that the recent line-ups would interest anyone doing real continental-philosophical work.
July 8, 2009 at 11:36 pm
ben,
i’d rather not say what program i am leaving at the moment because i haven’t “officialy” left yet. if you’re still interested, i can let you know in about three weeks. for now, i’ll just say that it’s in the south.
July 9, 2009 at 4:36 am
Levi,
Wow I relate so much to your orientation toward schooling and education. Seriously, I could have written some of this, it’s so similar it’s disorienting. I totally have this thing with school work where the simple fact of having to do something makes me not want to do it. It makes working on my own projects really hard – if the project is an approved/officially respectable one then it’s like instantly less interesting. The stuff I’m most excited about doing is always a side project to what I have to be doing. Weird.
Anthony, my experience was a lot like yours – I went into comp lit program for the reasons you picked your program, and had similar results.