Often I hear people ask “where is the place of the subject in object-oriented ontology”? The first thing to note is that object-oriented ontology (OOO) is not one particular ontology. Rather, OOO denotes a genus with many different species, rather than a particular position. In this regard, OOO is more a term like “empiricism”, “rationalism”, or “idealism”, rather than “Whiteheadian”, “Cartesian”, “Deleuzian”, “Derridean”. Just as there were debates between the various rationalists as we can see in the case of Descartes, Spinoza, and Leibniz who vehemently disagreed with one another, there are all sorts of different versions of OOO. The sole criteria for being an object-oriented ontologist lies in holding that the universe is composed of units. However, different object-oriented ontologists theorize those units differently. Some argue that units are completely withdrawn from all relations (Harman). Others argue that units only exist in relation to one another (Whitehead, Bennett). Some argue that units have a fixed and withdrawn essence (Harman, Morton). Others argue that units are processes and events and that they only exist and “have” an identity through continuing these operations or processes (me, Whitehead, Deleuze). Some argue that units are characterized by absolute actuality (Harman, Whitehead), others argue that every unit is split between potentiality, power, or capacity on the one hand, and actuality on the other hand (me, Deleuze, Bhaskar, DeLanda, Aristotle, etc). I could go on, but you get the idea. There isn’t one OOO, so there isn’t going to be an “OOO take” on the subject.
Consequently, in writing about OOO and the subject, I can only speak for myself. I think the first thing to get is that for OOO, the term “object” is not something opposed to a subject. The language here is misleading, which is why some of us try to use terms other than “object”, such as “unit”, “machine”, “actual occasion”, “actant”, and so on. The problem with the term “object” is that the philosophical tradition tends to think of object as that which a subject posits, regards, or intends. OOO uses the term “object” in a sense more analogous to thing, than as the correlate of an egos intentions. “Object” just names anything that exists. Being, OOO theories contend, consist of objects or units, regardless of whether any sentient being experiences them or intends them. These objects, of course, differ amongst themselves. Atoms are different than plants. Animals are different than rocks. Humans are different than armies. Armies are different than corporations and hurricanes. There are lots of different types of objects and one fruitful path of object-oriented inquiry would consist in the investigation of the unique structures of these different types of objects. Moreover, we see just how broadly the term “unit” is used here. On the one hand, there are units at a variety of different levels of scale from the smallest fermion up to entire nations, and there are objects that exist within other objects. Armies can’t exist without people and atoms, but nonetheless, armies are unique units that have their own dynamics. The case is no different than that of the relation between a cell and your liver. Your liver can’t exist without the cells that compose it, but nonetheless your liver is a unique unit because it has its own ways of operating, its own “rules” that govern it, that can’t be found at the level of individual cells. In the context of this discussion, however, the important thing to note is that, for OOO, subject is a type of object.
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The term “subject” is pretty nebulous. Which type of subject are we talking about? Are we talking about the subject of phenomenology as the seat of intentionality, experience, agency, and intuition? Nothing about OOO requires anyone to banish this subject or phenomenological methodology because humans are among the sorts of objects that we find populating being. Engage in phenomenological analysis to your heart’s content; just recognize that there are other objects that experience the world differently such as cats, octopi, corporations, and so on (I believe that phenomenology would be immeasurably enriched through comparative phenomenology, engaging in the analysis of people with “disabilities”, investigations of how other animals are phenomenologically open to the world, investigations of how entities like corporations, nations, institutions, political parties, armies, and so on encounter the world, and so on).
Are we talking about the Lacanian subject? The Lacanian subject is quite different from the phenomenological subject. Where the phenomenological subject is a seat of agency and experience, the Lacanian subject is experienced as that which is experienced as subverting our agency and experience (through bungled actions, symptoms, slips of the tongue, dreams, etc). Where the phenomenological subject says “I” and “me”, the Lacanian subject always seems alien to our sense of self. As Lacan likes to say, “I think where I am not and I am not where I think”. By this he means that our thought takes place not in our sense of conscious deliberation, but in an unconscious “elsewhere” that I can never fully identify with or assume. Where the phenomenological subject experiences itself as being in immediate identity with itself (at least in its Husserlian articulation), the Lacanian subject can only be detected in its traces— those traces being the formations of the unconscious –and is never present before us. Again, it just doesn’t have a dimension of “me-ness” to it. Where the phenomenological subject seems to have some substantial content to it, the Lacanian subject is quite literally a void or emptiness. It’s a sort of empty point, a mobile empty space, that language can never fill. Symptoms are perpetual (failed) attempts to fill that a priori hole. In this regard, the Lacanian subject is the ruin of every identity or attempt to ultimately say what we are. This isn’t as bleak as it sounds, as it also entails that no one is ever fully determined by power or conditioning.
Within my own work, I basically embrace Lacan’s theory of the subject and how the subject is formed through operations alienation and separation without reservation. I basically think subject, in Lacan’s sense, is what comes into “being” when one type of system, biological human beings, encounters and is alienated in another type of system, the system of language. In the language of autopoietic theory, subject names what happens when biological human beings are structurally coupled to the system of language. As Lacan argued, language introduces something into the world that wasn’t there before for the biological human being: constitutive absence. Constitutive absence is not the absence of this or that thing, such as being out of coffee in the morning, but is a sort of a priori or transcendental absence. It is the “condition for the possibility” of being able to refer to things in their absent, for thinking of imaginary things, for desiring in the Lacanian sense (not the Deleuzian sense), for it to be possible to experience things as missing, and so on. Most importantly, it is an absence that can never be filled. Consider the sliding puzzle game to the left above. Notice the empty square? That empty square allows the substantial squares to be moved about and combined in a variety of different ways, creating a variety of different patterns. However, the square itself will never be filled. It will always be empty no matter how much we slide the other squares about. The various combinations of squares and the patterns they create can be thought as formations of the unconscious. As the mobile and empty square moves about, it creates different patterns or formations. The empty square, by contrast, can be thought as subject. This is how it is within the Lacanian framework. Subject, transcendental absence, is nothing substantial, nor it is an agency that you are directing like a little homunculus. Rather, it is that which is perpetually shifting about in the system of language, creating all sorts of nutty formations. This phenomenon takes place, Lacan argues, because the biological human being gets alienated in language.
An important point here would then be that not every human being has a subject (my grammatical barbarism is intentional here because, again, you are not subject, but rather subject is something in you). For example, it’s unlikely that feral children have a subject in them for the simple reason that they aren’t alienated in language at the appropriate developmental point. As a consequence, we can speculate that they never form this transcendental or a priori absence. Likewise, Lacan seems to suggest that psychotics aren’t subjects because the paternal signifier isn’t operative in their unconscious and that paternal signifier, the name-of-the-father, is what institutes the first absence in the psychic economy of subjects, establishing the condition for the possibility of metaphorical substitutions that are part and parcel of subject as process (formations of the unconscious are basically metaphorical substitutions or attempts to name this primordial absence). In short, subject is something that only occurs under very specific conditions, involving a particular type of structural coupling.
The point is that OOO doesn’t require one to sacrifice things like the Lacanian subject (the same could be said of the Badiousian subject, which is yet a third type of subject). I continue to use Lacanian theory, practice, and categories all the time. Following the work of Adrian Johnston and Catherine Malabou, I do temper my understanding of Lacan somewhat by insisting that we need to make more room for biology and neurology than he did, but that doesn’t involve somehow abandoning the subject. That just means that it’s important to recognize that 1) if Lacanian/psychoanalytic theory is to be legitimate, it needs to be consistent with a naturalistic/materialist framework, and 2) that not all formations of mind can be explained in Lacanian terms (I think there are instances of organic mental illnesses). At most, situating Lacanian theory within an OOO framework might remind us that Lacanian categories are not appropriate to all phenomena of being we might discuss and analyze. Contrary to Zizek, for example, I don’t think a lot of Lacanian categories transfer well to discussions of larger scale social collectives; these are, after all, categories designed to what we encounter in the clinic in the case of analysands. In these other instances, we might very well need other categories. Sorting out these sorts of issues is another commendable project for object-oriented thought. What is rejected is any position that treats subject as ground of everything else or all beings as organized around subject. Subject is a being deeply important to us, but is also ontologically a being among other beings.
June 18, 2013 at 10:31 am
You list you, Harman, Morton and Bogost as OOOers, but surely the rest are not OOO: Deleuze, Whitehead, Bhaskar, etc. I mean come on.
June 18, 2013 at 1:30 pm
John,
Reading comprehension is your friend! OOO denotes any position that holds being is composed of units. The first object-oriented ontologist was Aristotle.
June 18, 2013 at 5:25 pm
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June 18, 2013 at 7:23 pm
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June 18, 2013 at 8:22 pm
Thank you very much for sharing your thinking; I’m learning more than I know from it, I suspect. This post helps me articulate a question about OOO that I have had for a while. If “for OOO, subject is a type of object,” how can we claim to know in advance what “type of object” a subject can be? It seems to me that OOO often does just that, assuming that subjects are human, or sentient, or language-using, or otherwise like us. That assumption often underlies the claim that subjects have no particular privilege and are just objects (of a particular type) among other objects (of other types). The trouble with this way of thinking about subjects, if I’m understanding it correctly, is that it seems to reproduce and even to emphasize an otherwise unhelpful distinction between human (or sentient, or language-using, etc.) objects and all others. Thinking about subjects as a special type of objects—a type that does not include, say, bacteria or poems or feral children—seems to me to introduce a troublesomely steep hill in the otherwise flat landscape of OOO. Could it make sense to assume, instead, that a subject not a type of object but just an object *from its own point of view*? Thinking about subjects that way might encourage the sort of “comparative phenomenology” that you suggest here, since every object (regardless of type) could simply be assumed to be the subject of its own experience from the get-go. What do you think?
June 18, 2013 at 10:29 pm
I don’t think DeLanda is committed to the position that “being is composed of units”. The introduction to “A Thousand Years of Nonlinear History” states that “In a very real sense, reality is a single matter-energy undergoing phase transitions of various kinds” (21). The unit is not posited as primary but is instead a secondary emergence of the fluctuations of this unified matter-energy. If this is the case, this resembles Spinozist monism, a position to which OOO stands opposed (last time I checked).
June 19, 2013 at 1:09 pm
What is the difference (if any) between a unit and a particular, and which philosophies do not claim that the universe is composed of units?
June 19, 2013 at 3:11 pm
John,
As a philosopheme, the concept of particulars refers to that of universals. Particulars are instances of the universal as in the case of Black Beauty being an instance of “horse”. Units need not be attached to any universals, nor even need universals to exist. Karen Barad is a good example of a philosopher that holds being isn’t composed of units insofar as she treats individuals as *arising from* something more primordial, not as being ontologically primitive. Spinoza would be another example, insofar as for him there is only one substance and everything else is a predicate of that substance. Some readings of Deleuze suggest that he holds a similar position (the pre-individual). And so on.
June 19, 2013 at 3:14 pm
BN,
Yeah, I should have clarified that. When I approach any philosophical text, I distinguish between its meta-philosophy and its philosophy. The meta-philosophy of a philosophy is how it describes or represents its position. The philosophy of a philosophy is what it actually develops in the body of its work. At the level of DeLanda’s meta-philosophy, you’re absolutely right. He claims not to advocate the existence of units. However, when you look at his actual analyses, he’s intoxicated by units of all kinds and even looks like an actor-network theorist.
June 19, 2013 at 3:16 pm
Neil,
I certainly don’t attribute the qualities you outline to all objects. The characteristic features of particular types of objects have to be specified in each domain. As far as I can tell, rocks don’t cognize, speak, perceive, etc.
June 19, 2013 at 3:41 pm
I don’t agree with you about Spinoza, inasmuch as he might think there is only one substance, but if the finite modes are not units, I’m not sure what would qualify. Still, we can agree to disagree on that.
If Black Beauty is an instance of horse (uncontroversial, surely), what is it about object/unit which means that individual objects/units ‘need not be attached to any universals, nor even need universals to exist’? If ‘the universe is composed of units’, surely we recognize them qua unit because they fall under the universal ‘unit’?
June 20, 2013 at 4:46 pm
It’s so felicitous that you’ve laid this all out so cogently just at the moment. Yesterday I attended a talk given by Simon DeDeo of the Santa Fe Institute held at St. John’s College here in Santa Fe, a collaboration not just of space but a real attempt to join forces. (We’re running out of water here, it’s dire.).
The talk (what makes a theory true?) was superb and the open-ended group groping that occurred in the Q&A was likewise superbly handled by Simon. He reminded me very much of you–passionate, brilliant, creative.
Every thread of the talk as well as in ensuing discussion, every impasse led to your onto-cartography. In my estimation they need you to help them define the frontier ahead–to ask the next (loving) questions. I seized the opportunity and have told some of them about it, emphasizing your kaleidoscopic Borromean Knot. They were/are intrigued.
Like the lotus flower in your coffee cup, Levi, I think this is a relationship that could potentially blossom in our desert. I very much see you here in Santa Fe at THIS think tank!
June 22, 2013 at 3:30 pm
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June 30, 2013 at 4:27 pm
@John Appleby
“Black Beauty” is not only an instance of a horse, but also an instance of fiction. There you get Spinozas modes as “Black Beauty” existing in a horse mode and in a fiction mode.
Then, the fiction of “Black Beauty” is only superficially about horses. It’s more about the life of a commodity. The novel finds its end when it is decided (on grounds of mercy) Black Beauty should never be sold again.
From this simple example the modes lead right up to contemporary substance.
July 6, 2013 at 8:15 pm
July 10, 2013 at 9:00 pm
Re: Spinoza
His discussion in Ethics of ‘modifications of modifications’ regarding modes seems to fall in line with ooo. Propositions 22 and 23 of Book I allow for this reading.
Some of Deleuze’s reading of Spinoza is also useful here.
July 11, 2013 at 11:59 pm
larvalsubjects,
Regular lurker here. I very much enjoy reading your blog and seeing how Continental philosophy has really taken off in interesting new directions. No doubt your own persistent, hard thinking and work has positively contributed to this.
I have a question regarding what you have said above. Is the meaning of ‘object’ in ‘object oriented ontology’ synonymous to the meaning of ‘thing’? That is to say, could we have very well called it ‘thing oriented ontology’ or would any of those thinkers you mentioned object to (no pun intended) their being characterized as endorsers of things?
My worry is this. Certainly thinghood seems to analytically imply unity. Yet some times ontologists draw a distinction between things and processes. Do you? Some say ‘thing’ is not identical to ‘process’; they have different intensional (and extensional) meanings. If things and processes are not identical, and you endorse processes and not things, then you are not an object oriented ontologist. But if things are identical to processes, then I fear equivocation: what is the extensional meaning common to ‘thing’ and ‘process’? I would grant that things and processes admit of unity. It is possible to predicate unity of things and processes. So perhaps the extensional definition of those terms involves unity. Fair enough. Many philosophers would agree. The problem concerns what is meant by ‘unity’. There is ungodly, fierce debate about how unity is to be characterized. But I see little attention paid by OOO to respond to these issues in the literature. Is unity to be understood mereologically, in terms of whole-part relations? If so, then serious theorists of OOO are obligated to answer van Inwagen’s standard Special Composition Question (see: http://users.ox.ac.uk/~sfop0257/teaching/metaphysics2001/Handout17.pdf). I have yet to see this question being addressed, along with the many other issues in the present literature (see: http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/mereology/). These cannot be ignored.
July 13, 2013 at 9:33 pm
Levi, you write: ” Some argue that units are characterized by absolute actuality (Harman, Whitehead), others argue that every unit is split between potentiality, power, or capacity on the one hand, and actuality on the other hand (me, Deleuze, Bhaskar, DeLanda, Aristotle, etc).”
Could you say more about this? I’ve always read Whitehead’s ontology as dipolar, where each concrescing entity unifies past actualities and decides among relevant future possibilities…
July 18, 2013 at 11:12 pm
Derek,
I take it that one of the tasks of philosophy is to determine what certain terms really signify. For example, ethical philosophy might try to give us an account of what is really signified by the “good”, and ontology might try to give an account of what it is to be a person. Often answers to these questions will be surprising from the standpoint of ordinary language usages. This, I think, is how we should approach terms like “thing” and “object”. Ordinary language connotations of those terms might suggest a series of meanings for these terms, but there’s no reason to suppose that ordinary language has any authority or insight into the nature of what it is to be a person or a thing. Philosophy, after all, attempts to move beyond doxa. In my view, analysis of things reveals that they are processes. Thing and process are synonym. I don’t see this as reason to abandon use of terms like “thing” or “object”.
July 19, 2013 at 7:56 am
Matt,
I’m not sure what you’re asking for.
July 19, 2013 at 11:41 pm
” Philosophy, after all, attempts to move beyond doxa. In my view, analysis of things reveals that they are processes. Thing and process are synonym.”
This is a really good way of framing it. Sort of Aristotelian. E.g.: “Here we have this concept of ousia, Now what does ousia really mean? What is its primary sense? Is it a combination of hyle and morphe? Is it genos? Is it ti to en einai (“essence”)?” Etc.
This is classical metaphysics par excellence, I think.
Thanks, Levi. (I should call you by your name, not larvalsubjects, hehe)
August 16, 2013 at 9:40 pm
Um, what about a Leninist subject? It seems the OOO scene is desperate not to step outside of a buttressed teleology of philosophical paternity rights.
August 16, 2013 at 9:55 pm
Oh, and by the way, could you explain the lapse from ‘the subject’ to ‘subject’? ‘The Subject’ is not something each of us is, but ‘subjectivity’ is something each of us possesses. Isn’t the ‘the Subject’ a description of the common recognition of the the capacity for ‘subjectivity’ among humans – even feral kids? Why do OOO-ists spend so much energy on trying to affirm that there’s nothing very different between subjectivity and matter? What’s so worrying about subjectivity? Yours, amused
August 16, 2013 at 11:53 pm
JJ,
It’s difficult to respond to your comments because I’m not entirely certain what you’re charging me with. First, it’s difficult to talk about an “OOO scene” as there’s no unanimity among those positions loosely referred to as “object-oriented ontology”. For example, Harman and I are opposed on just about every point, sharing only the view that being is composed of discrete units and that these units are irreducible to constructions of mind or language. Second, I have no particular problem with subjects and have a pretty rich framework for them within my ontology. I have no particular problem with the idea of a “Leninist subject” (I’m rather fond of Badiou’s theory of the subject which fits well with the idea of the Leninist subject), although I do feel somewhat that it’s rather bizarre to talk about a subject as the unit of politics in Marxist frameworks. In my view, we should instead speak of collectives where the political is concerned. The issue is not one of getting rid of the category of subject, but of avoiding those moves in philosophical orientations such as idealism and phenomenology that treat the subject as the ground of everything else or all other being, i.e., anthropocentrism.
August 17, 2013 at 10:28 am
I guess what I’m asking is what is wrong with anthropocentrism? I know you probably think that’s not a question worth answering. But it bothers me because I wonder whether we are talking about a critique of ‘anthropocentrism’ as a discretely philosophical project, or whether this actually bleeds (and has always bled) into a more prosaic and cultural prejudice against human agency, in which ‘anthropocentrism’ really means a cultural disgust towards humans mastering their material circumstances, their planet, their universe.
You see, when I follow the arguments of this ‘scene’ (which appears to come from a philosophical lineage) about mind, presence, access, etc. I can’t help thinking that, actually, these are being played out to justify something else – a cultural-moral project of suppression against, not subjects, or The Subject, but people, living human matter. That is, the material presence of all humanity on the planet. Of course it appears to be conducted as a philosophical war against the Subject, but the mood of it all is inflected by a cultural prejudice, which OOO writers never seem to need to answer for – ecological misanthropy.
I’m not so interested in your disagreements, which seem often to be the fiddling technicalities raised to monumental differences that always occur among related philosophers who are excited by each other – but rather the common ground you share, and don’t question – you could call it the ethos of the scene. And what’s striking is always the almost moral nature of the denigration of ‘The Subject’, a humdrum assumption that The Subject is Bad, and that taking it apart must be Good. It appears prosaic because it hooks readily into a vernacular, non-philosophy distaste for ‘anthropocentrism’, which also produces the yearning to escape the human register into the cosmic. And this all dovetails neatly into environmentalism, which is why OOO is often seen to be sympathetic to ecological thinking, and why so many of you refer back to ecological thinking as a source of unquestioned authority.
At the strictly explicit, on-it-own-terms level, though, one of the problems with much of the discourse that circulates, its common terms and their limit or horizon, is that it never seem to get much further than mind and language. Maybe this is just because philosophy only trades in mind and language, I don’t know. But one thing glaringly missing from the spectrum of terminology is the presence of the human act.
Sure, Being may be composed of discrete units, irreducible to mind and language etc. but this neglects the act – the human act, as opposed to other acts – and what the human act does to things (or objects, though they’re not the same) and to consciousness. This is why it seems kinda weird to have to ask – because it’s such an obvious point – if humans are taken as just things among things, why is their material behaviour so different to other incidences of matter, or units of Being? What explains its behaviour?
If humans were no more than language loci trapped in sense input, you’d have a case for treating them as nothing more than weird types of thing. As a Marxist materialist, though, this position seems ridiculous. By producing thoughts about what reality might be, humans tend to take action. Human acts have material consequences, because they alter matter, but this altering is qualitatively different to cosmic rays bumping into toasters. The qualitative difference is the feedback loop relationship between consciousness and act.This is temporal and dynamic, and dialectically alters both object and subject. Humans think, project, act, witness the act, think again etc. Toasters and supernovae do not.
My gesture towards Lenin is via Lukacs who (uncannily?) long ago argued that, ‘the objectivity of the external world is no inert, rigid objectivity fatalistically determining human activity; because of its very independence of consciousness, it stands in the most intimate indissoluble interaction with practice’. He goes on to by saying ‘reality is always richer and more varied than the best and most comprehensive theory that can be developed to apprehend it.’ which sounds quite OOO-ish, but of course there’s that dratted Subject, but this time functioning properly in relation to practice.
Lukacs’s point is that any cognitive representation of reality exists only by dint of human investigation to analogise a reality that is not exhausted by the act of representation. It is human action which marks out the subject as subject, because human action cannot be accounted for by physical accounts of matter. This is the human exception, because the object of the subject is not things, but its own acting on the matter of the world, of which it is part. Show me a non-human thing that does this and I’ll happily agree with you.
So while I might sympathise with the drudge labour of being a philosopher trying to do away with idealism and phenomenology, I can’t sympathise with an intellectual project that, unwittingly or not, seems to have become the intellectual armed wing of the environmental movement, or the moralised justifier for the political suppression of human-centred aspirations towards transforming the world in the interest of humans. Your sidestep, incidentally, towards ‘collectives’ is a ruse – collectives of what, exactly? Atoms? Meat?
August 17, 2013 at 6:32 pm
JJ,
I’m perplexed by your remarks as I find them unrecognizable as reflecting my own views. I have no hostility towards humans, nor as I said before am I particularly bothered by the category of subject. Ontologically the point is simple: being cannot be reduced to a construct of humans. Pointing that out doesn’t somehow annul or denigrate humans, nor does it amount to a hatred of humans. I share much of your Marxist politics; though my own instincts lay in the direction of anarcho-Marxism. Clearly, when dealing with political issues in a Marxist context we’re going to be concerned specifically with human related issues and to be concerned with how this things affect us and what we can do about them. Nothing about the ontology I propose forecloses or diminishes any of this. I do believe, however, that the ontology I propose does have political implications; especially with respect to how we think about power. After Marx there was a tendency for Marxist thought to turn away from materiality, instead treating discursivity in the form of ideology and language as the sole sources of power, exploitation, and oppression. Without rejecting the power exercised by the discursive and ideological, I’ve also tried to draw attention to the power exercised by things. In my view, this multiplies the sites of the political that must be addressed in projects of emancipation, while also multiplying the possibilities of political intervention. It turns out that critique and debunking are not enough to produce political change, but that we also need to materially transform our environments or the world we live in so as to render new forms of movement and new types of social relation possible. My forthcoming book Onto-Cartography discusses these issues in great detail.
I’m not sure I understand what you’re saying here:
Are you advocating some sort of mind/body dualism, that souls are separable from bodies; that, in short, subject and mind are not dependent on body and neurology? If that’s what you’re suggesting I can’t follow you there as I just don’t think this is a credible position in either a Marxist framework (who was a staunch materialist) nor in a contemporary context. We can’t just conjure away our material and embodied nature based on some sort of normative or political commitment. Doing so is no better than creationists thumbing their noses at piles of evidence for evolution based on their theological commitments. It’s also mightily odd for a Marxist to advocate such dualism.
August 17, 2013 at 6:49 pm
JJ,
I’d also add that when you make remarks such as this you put me in an exceedingly unfair position:
Here you basically divest me of my own voice and positions, and authorize yourself to attribute the claims of others to me. For someone defending the dignity of the subject, that’s a rather hypocritical gesture. Not only is my ontology quite different from Harman’s, defending a rich place for the social and cultural, but my politics is quite different. Indeed, I coined the term “OOO” precisely to distinguish other positions that nonetheless wished to take cognizance of things and materiality from Harman’s OOP or object-oriented philosophy. If you’re after an instance of what I’m after with the power exercised by objects, you might consult my article “On the Reality and Construction of Hyperobjects With Respect to Class” here:
Click to access Bryant_Reality%20and%20Construction%20of%20Hyperobjects_v2.pdf
It’s a bit dated now but will give you a sense of what I’m talking about. With any luck you’ll see that there’s nothing particularly misanthropist about the claims there, nor is there any question of erasing humans. The problem with anthropocentrism isn’t that it talks about humans, but rather– to put it in somewhat Hegelian terms –that it is “one sided”. We spend all our time talking about how humans meaningfully constitute other beings, spending little time analyzing the way in which the material world around us influences us and contributes to how our social relations are structured and organized.